Firelite Tech Support

  • Subscribe to our RSS feed.
  • Twitter
  • StumbleUpon
  • Reddit
  • Facebook
  • Digg

Wednesday, 18 January 2012

Butane Adapters III -- Upright Canister Stoves

Posted on 10:15 by Unknown
The last two adapters I reviewed (see:  Butane Adapter Warning and Butane Adapters II) were really for remote canister stoves -- stoves where the fuel and the burner are physically separate and a fuel hose runs between the two.

What about upright canister stoves, what's available for them?   An upright canister stove is the type where the stove screws right into the top of the canister.  With a "long" canister like the cheap 100% butane ones, it's most practical to lay them on their side -- which would leave your stove pointing sideways.  What we need is an adapter with a 90° angle.

Turns out there is just such an adapter.
A butane adapter intended for upright canister stoves
This one, unlike the last two, isn't too bad.  Let's have a look.

The legs fold up underneath for storage.  Nice feature.
A butane adapter for upright canister stoves with the legs folded underneath.
How does it work?  Like the last adapter I reviewed, this adapter has two hooks, a larger and a smaller.
This butane adapter has two hooks, a larger one (bottom) and a smaller one (top).
The larger hook at the bottom clips onto the collar around the valve on the canister.  The smaller hook fits through the notch on the canister.
The smaller hook fits through the notch on the canister.
The canister is then rotated about 1/16th of a turn to the right, locking the canister in place.
A canister rotated and locked into place on the butane adapter.
The top of the adapter has a threaded connector, a connector that is the equivalent of the connector on the top of a standard threaded canister.  One nice thing about this adapter is that there is a valve inside the adapter.  In other words, if you hook up a canister of gas, it won't spray all over if you didn't hook up the stove first.
The threaded connector on top of a three legged butane adapter.
Note that the body of the adapter is plastic.  I have read reports on the internet of the plastic melting when used with a larger pan, particularly with simmering type cooking.  Use caution on long, slow burns, particularly with larger pots and pans.  Larger pots and pans may reflect a lot of heat back to the adapter.  I have not personally had any problems with the plastic melting.  If one were using a stove that has a significant amount of thermal feedback, perhaps something like a Coleman F1, there might be melting problems.  A melted adapter could cause a gas explosion.  Monitor the adapter closely the first time you use it with any given stove.  

Well, let's hook it up and see how it goes.  Today's stove is a Markill Hot Rod.  Note the striking similarity of the burner to the burner on a Vargo Jet-Ti, a Kovea SupaLite, and a Snow Peak LiteMax.  Note also the similarity of the valve to the Snow Peak GigaPower (GS-100) stove.  Apparently, stove companies contract out their work to a relative few factories in Korea and China.
A Markill Hot Rod upright canister stove
Ah.  There we are, all hooked up.
An upright canister stove hooked to a cheap 100% butane canister via a three legged butane adapter.
And, when we open the valve on the stove, it fires up nicely.
p
An upright canister stove running on cheap 100% butane.
Stoves lose a great deal of efficiency if there's any wind, so I normally use a windscreen.
A windscreen in use with a stove running with a butane adapter.
With a windscreen, you could get heat build up that could a) could melt the plastic adapter or worse b) overheat the canister.  Overheating a canister could result in a catastrophic explosion.  Monitor the canister temperature frequently and consistently with your hand.  If it feels hot, TURN IT DOWN immediately or open up the windscreen more.

I experienced no problems with the set up above on a relatively cool day (approx. 50F/10C ambient temperature), with the stove shown.   Every day and every stove is different.  Monitor your stove closely.

DISCUSSION
This adapter is clearly the best of the lot.  It has an internal valve so you won't spray butane all over if you forget to hook up the stove first.  It has legs that are reasonably stable and prevent the canister from rolling.  Recall that if the canister rolls, you could have a dangerous, uncontrolled flare.  I can see that this adapter could be useful for day hikes, picnics, car camping, motor touring, etc. in warm weather (recall that 100% butane needs to be at or above 40F/5C for there to be sufficient operating pressure and that the canister will chill with use).

However, for serious backpacking, I don't see it, at least for me.  First, it's extra weight (78g/2.75oz).  Second, it's more bulk.  Third, it's extra fiddling (not bad though).  Lastly, that connection is not as secure as a regular backpacking connection.  In field conditions, could that connection work loose?  Somewhat unlikely, but it could happen, and that could be bad, very bad, if the gas were to continue to flow but the connection were loose.  Something to at least consider.

I will give this adapter a somewhat tentative "recommended" rating.  It is up to the individual to determine whether the adapter is useful for his or her particular style of stove use.

Thanks for joining me on another Adventure in Stoving.

HJ

Technical Appendix -- Weights

Here is a table of weights of some of the adapters and accessories I have recently discussed.
Brunton Canister Stand       19g/0.67oz
Butane adapter, no legs      29g/1.02oz
Butane adapter, two legs     38g/1.34oz
Butane adapter, three legs   78g/2.75oz
Kovea propane adapter       105g/3.70oz
Brunton Stove Stand         145g/5.11oz
Email ThisBlogThis!Share to XShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest
Posted in butane, butane adapter, top mounted canister stove, upright canister stove | No comments
Newer Post Older Post Home

0 comments:

Post a Comment

Subscribe to: Post Comments (Atom)

Popular Posts

  • The Kovea LPG (Propane) Adapter
    I recently picked something up that turns out to be pretty useful:  A Kovea LPG (Propane) Adapter.  This adapter allows one to run a standar...
  • Refilling Coleman PowerMax Canisters
    It's no secret that I like Coleman PowerMax gas canisters.  Note:  PowerMax canisters are called  just plain "Max" in some loc...
  • Stove of the Week: MSR Whisperlite Universal
    As previously announced and reported here on Adventures in Stoving, MSR is coming out with a new version of their Whisperlite stove, the W...
  • Stove of the Week: MSR Rapidfire
    OK, so this week's stove is a bit of a "sleeper" in the sense that it's not a stove that you would expect a lot from -- un...
  • The SuperGnat (Gaz *and* Threaded!)
    There are two types of modern gas canisters for backpacking (see  Backpacking Gas Canisters 101 ). Generally, stoves built for one type of c...
  • Stove of the Week: Hank Roberts Mini Stove, Mark III
    I happen to like my old Hank Roberts stove, a stove that dates back to the 1960's. It's in very nice condition. I have the Mark I...
  • The Hank Roberts Stove -- With a Proper Canister
    What's one of the most enduring designs of gas stoves? The Hank Roberts mini stove.  It's compact design truly makes it a pocket sto...
  • Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone
    This week's stove is the Caldera Cone with 12-10 stove from Trail Designs . My review of the stove is available at Seattle Backpackers M...
  • 100% Propane for Backpacking? YES!
    What's the "holy grail" of canister gas for cold weather backpacking?  100% propane.  Propane is the best.  Plain butane won...
  • Stove of the Week: Primus Omnifuel
    If you want a stove that runs like a Swiss watch, then the Primus Omnifuel is your stove. It's precision engineering at it's best.  ...

Categories

  • 100% propane
  • 12-10
  • 12-10 burner
  • 2012
  • adapter
  • alcohol burner
  • alcohol fuel
  • alcohol stove
  • all fuel
  • all fuel stove
  • Appalachian Trail
  • AT
  • back country
  • backpacker
  • backpacking
  • backpacking canister
  • backpacking espresso
  • backpacking fuel
  • backpacking fuel prices
  • backpacking stove
  • beginner stove
  • best alcohol
  • best gas cold
  • best gas cold weather
  • best stove
  • blended fuel
  • blog status
  • boil
  • borde benzin brenner
  • borde bomb
  • borde stove
  • BPL
  • BPL Firelite
  • BPL Firelite 550
  • Bush Buddy
  • Bush Buddy Ultra
  • bushbuddy
  • bushbuddy ultra
  • butane
  • butane adapter
  • butane refill
  • butane stove
  • Caldera
  • Caldera Caddy
  • caldera cone
  • Caldera Cone Ti-Tri
  • Caldera Inferno
  • California Campfire Permit
  • Camp 5
  • camping
  • Camping Gaz
  • canister
  • canister cold
  • canister explosion
  • canister formats
  • canister gas
  • canister gas cold
  • canister refilling
  • canister stove
  • canisters
  • cartridge refill
  • cartridge stove
  • cat can stove
  • Cheap Deals
  • cleaning wood soot
  • Clikstand
  • cold
  • cold weather
  • cold weather gas
  • Coleman
  • coleman fuel
  • Coleman Max
  • Coleman PowerMax
  • Coleman Xpedition
  • Coleman Xpert
  • Coleman Xtreme
  • Crux
  • denatured alcohol
  • disk stove
  • EFI
  • Esbit
  • Espresso Star
  • ethanol
  • ethyl
  • Evernew
  • expedition
  • extreme cold
  • fast boil times
  • FeatherFire
  • fuel
  • fuel cube
  • fuel gauge
  • fuel price
  • fuel prices
  • fuel quantity
  • fuel tablet
  • gas
  • gas cartridge
  • gas cold weather
  • gas explosion
  • gas formats
  • gas gauge
  • gas refill
  • Gas stove
  • Gaz
  • gear
  • gear review
  • Gerry Stove
  • getting started
  • GigaPower
  • Gnat
  • GS-100
  • Hank Roberts
  • Hank Roberts Mini Mark III
  • Hank Roberts Mini Stove
  • heat exchanger
  • heat shield
  • HEET
  • hexamine
  • hexie
  • hiking
  • hybrid stove
  • Inferno option
  • integrated canister stove
  • Internationale
  • inverted canister
  • inverted gas
  • isobutane stove
  • JetBoil
  • JetBoil Cooking
  • JetBoil danger
  • JetBoil failure
  • Jetboil fry pan
  • JetBoil melt
  • Jetboil omelet
  • Jetboil omelette
  • Jetboil pan
  • JetBoil problem
  • JetBoil Sol
  • JetBoil Sol Ti
  • jetboil Sumo
  • KB-1006
  • kerosene
  • Kovea
  • Kovea Camp 4
  • Kovea Camp 5
  • Kovea Moonwalker
  • lighter
  • liquid feed
  • liquid feed gas
  • liquid fuel
  • Mark III
  • Max
  • melted heat exchanger
  • methanol
  • metho
  • metho stove
  • meths
  • meths stove
  • methyl
  • methylated spirits
  • micro regulator
  • micro rocket
  • microregulator
  • microrocket
  • mini bull
  • Mini Bull Designs
  • Mini Mark III
  • Mini Stove
  • minibull
  • Monotauk
  • Monotauk Gnat
  • Moonwalker
  • MSR
  • MSR canister
  • MSR Espresso Star
  • MSR micro rocket
  • MSR microrocket
  • MSR pocket rocket
  • MSR pocketrocket
  • MSR Rapidfire
  • msr reactor
  • MSR Simmerlite
  • MSR super fuel
  • MSR SuperFly
  • MSR Titan kettle
  • MSR Whisperlite
  • MSR whisperlite universal
  • MSR Windpro
  • MSR Windpro II
  • msr xgk
  • muka
  • muka od1-np
  • muka od1np
  • muka stove
  • Muka ストーブ
  • multi fuel
  • multifuel
  • n-butane
  • new
  • Nion 3
  • Nova
  • od-1np
  • od-1R
  • od1np
  • od1r
  • Omni Fuel
  • Omnifuel
  • open jet stove
  • Optimus
  • Optimus Crux
  • Optimus Nova
  • pack stove
  • PackaFeather
  • petrol
  • petrol stove
  • piezo
  • piezoelectric
  • pocket rocket
  • pocketrocket
  • pots
  • Powermax
  • PowerMax refilling
  • practical
  • pre shaker jet
  • pre-heat loop
  • pre-Katadyn
  • price
  • Primus
  • Primus Omnifuel
  • propane
  • propane adapter
  • propane backpacking
  • propane stove
  • radiation shield
  • Rapidfire
  • reactor
  • refill canister
  • refilling backpacking
  • refilling butane
  • remote canister
  • remote gas
  • review
  • side laying canister
  • simmer control
  • simmering
  • simmering alcohol
  • Simmerlite
  • snow melting
  • Snow Peak
  • SOD-300
  • SOD-371
  • SOD300
  • SOD371
  • Sol
  • Sol Ti
  • solid fuel
  • soto
  • soto microregulator
  • soto muka
  • soto od-1R
  • soto od1-np
  • soto od1np
  • Soto pocket torch
  • stove
  • stove fuel
  • stove review
  • super fuel
  • SuperFly
  • superfuel
  • SuperGnat
  • threaded canisters
  • ti wing
  • Ti-Tri
  • Tibetan Ti Wing Stove
  • tips
  • Titan kettle
  • titanium
  • top mount canister stove
  • top mounted canister stove
  • Trail Designs
  • Trangia
  • two burner
  • ultralight
  • Universal gas
  • unsafe
  • upright canister stove
  • warning
  • whisperlite
  • whisperlite universal
  • white gas
  • white gas stove
  • white gasoline
  • wind
  • Windpro
  • Windpro II
  • windscreen
  • windscreens
  • wood burner
  • wood cooking clean up
  • wood gas
  • wood gasification
  • wood stove
  • XGK
  • xgk ii
  • Xpedition
  • ボルドーバーナー

Blog Archive

  • ►  2013 (18)
    • ►  May (2)
    • ►  April (5)
    • ►  March (6)
    • ►  February (5)
  • ▼  2012 (54)
    • ►  September (2)
    • ►  June (3)
    • ►  April (5)
    • ►  March (12)
    • ►  February (13)
    • ▼  January (19)
      • Why a Wood Stove? More Thoughts on the Caldera Co...
      • MSR MicroRocket -- Packability Report #2
      • The Ti-Tri Caldera Cone -- The Ultimate Ultralight...
      • The New MSR MicroRocket -- Completed Review
      • The Kovea Camp 5 Remote Canister Stove
      • The FeatherFire Alcohol Stove
      • Refilling Gas Canisters
      • Butane Adapters III -- Upright Canister Stoves
      • Butane Adapters II
      • Butane Adapter WARNING
      • 100% Propane for Backpacking II
      • The Kovea LPG (Propane) Adapter
      • Financial Report
      • The SuperGnat (Gaz *and* Threaded!)
      • Backpacking Gas Canisters 101
      • MSR MicroRocket -- Cooking Report
      • The State of the Blog
      • The New MSR MicroRocket -- Trail Report #2
      • The New MSR MicroRocket -- Trail Report #1
  • ►  2011 (65)
    • ►  December (15)
    • ►  November (13)
    • ►  October (7)
    • ►  September (3)
    • ►  August (5)
    • ►  July (2)
    • ►  June (3)
    • ►  May (2)
    • ►  April (1)
    • ►  March (5)
    • ►  February (5)
    • ►  January (4)
Powered by Blogger.

About Me

Unknown
View my complete profile