Firelite Tech Support

  • Subscribe to our RSS feed.
  • Twitter
  • StumbleUpon
  • Reddit
  • Facebook
  • Digg

Saturday, 7 January 2012

Backpacking Gas Canisters 101

Posted on 22:07 by Unknown
What are the common canister types out there these days for backpacking use?

Basically, there are two common modern gas canisters suitable for backpackers, Camping Gaz (non-threaded) and 7/16ths UNEF threaded canisters.  Generally, stoves built for one type will not work with the other, but there are exceptions such as the relatively heavy MSR Superfly.  There are also much lighter DIY exceptions such as the "SuperGnat" that you can assemble in the matter of a few minutes.
A non-threaded CV270 Camping Gaz canister (left) and a threaded 110g Snow Peak canister (right).

Before I discuss backpacking suitable canisters, let's clear out what's not really suitable:


Canisters NOT Suitable

Non-Backpacking Canisters:  Now, there are plenty of other canisters that you could use for backpacking including the big, heavy steel 16.4 oz/465g 100% propane cylinders as well as the "hair spray can" 8oz/227g 100% butane canisters used for table side cooking in restaurants, but these are generally unsuitable for backpacking.  Not recommended.  There are also 100% butane canisters for small hand blow torches and the like.  These typically do not fit backpacking type stoves.  Not recommended.

Obsolescent Canisters:  There are also older formats including the old puncture type gas canisters that  have no valve.  There's a sharp metal "bayonet" type object on stoves that use puncture canisters.  The "bayonet" quite literally punctures the canisters.  Yes, that's right, you're ripping through the metal top of the canister in order to get to the gas.  Needless to say, this is an older type canister!  On these old style canisters, the stove must remain in place until the canister is fully empty.  There is no valve built into the canister to allow you to separate the canister from the stove (until fully empty) for safe transport.  You can still buy the old puncture type canisters, but they have been implicated in a number of accidents and are not as safe as modern canisters with valves.  Not recommended.  Note:  In some lesser developed countries, puncture type canisters may be the only gas canisters available.  Travelers should check on what canister formats are available in the countries they intend to visit before departure.

Obsolete Canisters:  There are also dozens of old canister formats that have been discontinued including Hank Roberts, Campak, and PowerMax just to name a few.   Some of these were excellent formats.  However, they are no longer produced.  I'm not going to discuss them other than to mention that they exist.

Suitable Canisters
Modern Backpacking Canisters:    OK, now we're to the meat of this post:  Today's modern backpacking canisters.  There are two common types of gas canisters suitable for backpackers, Camping Gaz (non-threaded) and 7/16ths UNEF threaded canisters.
A 230g Camping Gaz canister.
Camping Gaz Canisters:  Camping Gaz canisters are made by, well, Camping Gaz.  Camping Gaz is the only known company that produces canisters to this specification.  The connectors on Camping Gaz canisters are non threaded.  Many people consider this a superior type connector because there are no threads to wear out or cross thread.  However, in most countries of the world, threaded canisters are the standard.  To my knowledge, only in France is the Camping Gaz canister considered the standard.
A close up of the (non-threaded) connector on a Camping Gaz canister
Camping Gaz canisters are not necessarily universally available outside France.  Camping Gaz canisters in the US are available, but they are less available than standard threaded canisters.  If you decide to buy a stove that uses Camping Gaz type canisters, you should make sure said canisters are available in your area.

Camping Gaz canisters have a Lindal valve inside the connector.  The valve allows the canister to be removed from the stove for safe storage or transport.

Camping Gaz canisters come in two sizes:  230g and 450g.  A smaller size in the 100g range is not available.

Camping Gaz canisters contain a blend of propane and butane.  As such, Camping Gaz canisters are not the best choice for cold weather.  See What's the Best Brand of Gas for Cold Weather?  for further information.

Standard Threaded Canisters:  In most of the developed world, the standard for gas canisters for backpacking is a threaded canister with a 7/16ths UNEF thread.
A standard threaded backpacking type canister.  This one happens to be made by Snow Peak.
Standard threaded canisters are made by dozens and dozens of companies.  Generally, canisters from one company work perfectly fine with the stoves of another company.  Some companies try to intimate that their particular canisters will somehow make their stoves run better and that you should only use that company's particular brand of gas.  That's a bunch of horse hockey.  All major brands are interchangeable.  The only time you might get into trouble is buying some brand that you've never heard of in some remote corner of the world.  Otherwise they are all mechanically about the same.  However, the gas contained within isn't necessarily.  For warm weather (above 50F/10C), buy whatever is cheapest.  For cold weather, what's inside matters.  See What's the Best Brand of Gas for Cold Weather?  for further information.

The 7/16ths UNEF threads of a standard threaded canister
Like Camping Gaz canisters, standard threaded canisters have a Lindal valve inside the connector.  The valve allows the canister to be removed from the stove for safe storage or transport.

Standard threaded canisters come in three size ranges:  small (100g to 113g), medium (220g to 230g), and large (450g).  The classes can also be expressed as 4oz, 8oz, and 16oz.  Be careful calling a canister "large."  Many stores only carry the 1xxg and 2xxg sizes.  Some people refer to the 2xxg canisters as "large."  It's best to specify what size you want in grams or ounces.

There you have it, a brief look at the basics of gas canisters.  Hopefully, that's helpful as you shop for gas or as you consider which stove to buy.

HJ


Related articles and posts:
  • Cold Weather Tips for Gas Stoves
  • What's the Best Gas for Cold Weather?
  • Canisters, Cold, and Altitude:  Gas in a Nutshell
  • Gas in Cold Weather:  The Myth of "Fractioning"
  • Canister Stoves 101:  Thread Care
  • Gas Blends and Cold Weather Performance.  (Why not just use propane?)
  • Gas Stoves: How Cold Can I Go?
  • The "SuperGnat"  (Camping Gaz or threaded canisters with one lightweight stove)
  • Backpacking Gas Canisters 101    
  • Gas in Extreme Cold:  Yes or No?
  • Stoves For Cold Weather I (Upright canister stoves) -- Seattle Backpacker's Magazine
  • Stoves for Cold Weather II (Inverted canister stoves) -- Seattle Backpacker's Magazine
Email ThisBlogThis!Share to XShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest
Posted in canister formats, canister gas, canisters, gas formats, threaded canisters | No comments
Newer Post Older Post Home

0 comments:

Post a Comment

Subscribe to: Post Comments (Atom)

Popular Posts

  • The Kovea LPG (Propane) Adapter
    I recently picked something up that turns out to be pretty useful:  A Kovea LPG (Propane) Adapter.  This adapter allows one to run a standar...
  • Refilling Coleman PowerMax Canisters
    It's no secret that I like Coleman PowerMax gas canisters.  Note:  PowerMax canisters are called  just plain "Max" in some loc...
  • Stove of the Week: MSR Whisperlite Universal
    As previously announced and reported here on Adventures in Stoving, MSR is coming out with a new version of their Whisperlite stove, the W...
  • Stove of the Week: MSR Rapidfire
    OK, so this week's stove is a bit of a "sleeper" in the sense that it's not a stove that you would expect a lot from -- un...
  • The SuperGnat (Gaz *and* Threaded!)
    There are two types of modern gas canisters for backpacking (see  Backpacking Gas Canisters 101 ). Generally, stoves built for one type of c...
  • Stove of the Week: Hank Roberts Mini Stove, Mark III
    I happen to like my old Hank Roberts stove, a stove that dates back to the 1960's. It's in very nice condition. I have the Mark I...
  • The Hank Roberts Stove -- With a Proper Canister
    What's one of the most enduring designs of gas stoves? The Hank Roberts mini stove.  It's compact design truly makes it a pocket sto...
  • Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone
    This week's stove is the Caldera Cone with 12-10 stove from Trail Designs . My review of the stove is available at Seattle Backpackers M...
  • 100% Propane for Backpacking? YES!
    What's the "holy grail" of canister gas for cold weather backpacking?  100% propane.  Propane is the best.  Plain butane won...
  • Stove of the Week: Primus Omnifuel
    If you want a stove that runs like a Swiss watch, then the Primus Omnifuel is your stove. It's precision engineering at it's best.  ...

Categories

  • 100% propane
  • 12-10
  • 12-10 burner
  • 2012
  • adapter
  • alcohol burner
  • alcohol fuel
  • alcohol stove
  • all fuel
  • all fuel stove
  • Appalachian Trail
  • AT
  • back country
  • backpacker
  • backpacking
  • backpacking canister
  • backpacking espresso
  • backpacking fuel
  • backpacking fuel prices
  • backpacking stove
  • beginner stove
  • best alcohol
  • best gas cold
  • best gas cold weather
  • best stove
  • blended fuel
  • blog status
  • boil
  • borde benzin brenner
  • borde bomb
  • borde stove
  • BPL
  • BPL Firelite
  • BPL Firelite 550
  • Bush Buddy
  • Bush Buddy Ultra
  • bushbuddy
  • bushbuddy ultra
  • butane
  • butane adapter
  • butane refill
  • butane stove
  • Caldera
  • Caldera Caddy
  • caldera cone
  • Caldera Cone Ti-Tri
  • Caldera Inferno
  • California Campfire Permit
  • Camp 5
  • camping
  • Camping Gaz
  • canister
  • canister cold
  • canister explosion
  • canister formats
  • canister gas
  • canister gas cold
  • canister refilling
  • canister stove
  • canisters
  • cartridge refill
  • cartridge stove
  • cat can stove
  • Cheap Deals
  • cleaning wood soot
  • Clikstand
  • cold
  • cold weather
  • cold weather gas
  • Coleman
  • coleman fuel
  • Coleman Max
  • Coleman PowerMax
  • Coleman Xpedition
  • Coleman Xpert
  • Coleman Xtreme
  • Crux
  • denatured alcohol
  • disk stove
  • EFI
  • Esbit
  • Espresso Star
  • ethanol
  • ethyl
  • Evernew
  • expedition
  • extreme cold
  • fast boil times
  • FeatherFire
  • fuel
  • fuel cube
  • fuel gauge
  • fuel price
  • fuel prices
  • fuel quantity
  • fuel tablet
  • gas
  • gas cartridge
  • gas cold weather
  • gas explosion
  • gas formats
  • gas gauge
  • gas refill
  • Gas stove
  • Gaz
  • gear
  • gear review
  • Gerry Stove
  • getting started
  • GigaPower
  • Gnat
  • GS-100
  • Hank Roberts
  • Hank Roberts Mini Mark III
  • Hank Roberts Mini Stove
  • heat exchanger
  • heat shield
  • HEET
  • hexamine
  • hexie
  • hiking
  • hybrid stove
  • Inferno option
  • integrated canister stove
  • Internationale
  • inverted canister
  • inverted gas
  • isobutane stove
  • JetBoil
  • JetBoil Cooking
  • JetBoil danger
  • JetBoil failure
  • Jetboil fry pan
  • JetBoil melt
  • Jetboil omelet
  • Jetboil omelette
  • Jetboil pan
  • JetBoil problem
  • JetBoil Sol
  • JetBoil Sol Ti
  • jetboil Sumo
  • KB-1006
  • kerosene
  • Kovea
  • Kovea Camp 4
  • Kovea Camp 5
  • Kovea Moonwalker
  • lighter
  • liquid feed
  • liquid feed gas
  • liquid fuel
  • Mark III
  • Max
  • melted heat exchanger
  • methanol
  • metho
  • metho stove
  • meths
  • meths stove
  • methyl
  • methylated spirits
  • micro regulator
  • micro rocket
  • microregulator
  • microrocket
  • mini bull
  • Mini Bull Designs
  • Mini Mark III
  • Mini Stove
  • minibull
  • Monotauk
  • Monotauk Gnat
  • Moonwalker
  • MSR
  • MSR canister
  • MSR Espresso Star
  • MSR micro rocket
  • MSR microrocket
  • MSR pocket rocket
  • MSR pocketrocket
  • MSR Rapidfire
  • msr reactor
  • MSR Simmerlite
  • MSR super fuel
  • MSR SuperFly
  • MSR Titan kettle
  • MSR Whisperlite
  • MSR whisperlite universal
  • MSR Windpro
  • MSR Windpro II
  • msr xgk
  • muka
  • muka od1-np
  • muka od1np
  • muka stove
  • Muka ストーブ
  • multi fuel
  • multifuel
  • n-butane
  • new
  • Nion 3
  • Nova
  • od-1np
  • od-1R
  • od1np
  • od1r
  • Omni Fuel
  • Omnifuel
  • open jet stove
  • Optimus
  • Optimus Crux
  • Optimus Nova
  • pack stove
  • PackaFeather
  • petrol
  • petrol stove
  • piezo
  • piezoelectric
  • pocket rocket
  • pocketrocket
  • pots
  • Powermax
  • PowerMax refilling
  • practical
  • pre shaker jet
  • pre-heat loop
  • pre-Katadyn
  • price
  • Primus
  • Primus Omnifuel
  • propane
  • propane adapter
  • propane backpacking
  • propane stove
  • radiation shield
  • Rapidfire
  • reactor
  • refill canister
  • refilling backpacking
  • refilling butane
  • remote canister
  • remote gas
  • review
  • side laying canister
  • simmer control
  • simmering
  • simmering alcohol
  • Simmerlite
  • snow melting
  • Snow Peak
  • SOD-300
  • SOD-371
  • SOD300
  • SOD371
  • Sol
  • Sol Ti
  • solid fuel
  • soto
  • soto microregulator
  • soto muka
  • soto od-1R
  • soto od1-np
  • soto od1np
  • Soto pocket torch
  • stove
  • stove fuel
  • stove review
  • super fuel
  • SuperFly
  • superfuel
  • SuperGnat
  • threaded canisters
  • ti wing
  • Ti-Tri
  • Tibetan Ti Wing Stove
  • tips
  • Titan kettle
  • titanium
  • top mount canister stove
  • top mounted canister stove
  • Trail Designs
  • Trangia
  • two burner
  • ultralight
  • Universal gas
  • unsafe
  • upright canister stove
  • warning
  • whisperlite
  • whisperlite universal
  • white gas
  • white gas stove
  • white gasoline
  • wind
  • Windpro
  • Windpro II
  • windscreen
  • windscreens
  • wood burner
  • wood cooking clean up
  • wood gas
  • wood gasification
  • wood stove
  • XGK
  • xgk ii
  • Xpedition
  • ボルドーバーナー

Blog Archive

  • ►  2013 (18)
    • ►  May (2)
    • ►  April (5)
    • ►  March (6)
    • ►  February (5)
  • ▼  2012 (54)
    • ►  September (2)
    • ►  June (3)
    • ►  April (5)
    • ►  March (12)
    • ►  February (13)
    • ▼  January (19)
      • Why a Wood Stove? More Thoughts on the Caldera Co...
      • MSR MicroRocket -- Packability Report #2
      • The Ti-Tri Caldera Cone -- The Ultimate Ultralight...
      • The New MSR MicroRocket -- Completed Review
      • The Kovea Camp 5 Remote Canister Stove
      • The FeatherFire Alcohol Stove
      • Refilling Gas Canisters
      • Butane Adapters III -- Upright Canister Stoves
      • Butane Adapters II
      • Butane Adapter WARNING
      • 100% Propane for Backpacking II
      • The Kovea LPG (Propane) Adapter
      • Financial Report
      • The SuperGnat (Gaz *and* Threaded!)
      • Backpacking Gas Canisters 101
      • MSR MicroRocket -- Cooking Report
      • The State of the Blog
      • The New MSR MicroRocket -- Trail Report #2
      • The New MSR MicroRocket -- Trail Report #1
  • ►  2011 (65)
    • ►  December (15)
    • ►  November (13)
    • ►  October (7)
    • ►  September (3)
    • ►  August (5)
    • ►  July (2)
    • ►  June (3)
    • ►  May (2)
    • ►  April (1)
    • ►  March (5)
    • ►  February (5)
    • ►  January (4)
Powered by Blogger.

About Me

Unknown
View my complete profile